tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6654557322291409718.post1862148651134503171..comments2023-09-29T06:01:25.015-07:00Comments on NOT Heather's Genealogy: John Bingaman 1710-1755Heather Truckenmillerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10613296785567101431noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6654557322291409718.post-47623137615419555942020-09-29T09:08:11.823-07:002020-09-29T09:08:11.823-07:00I'm descended from Jacob Shell(1718-1802) who ...I'm descended from Jacob Shell(1718-1802) who was one of John Bingman's neighbors on the New River, and probably fled with him to the Shenandoah Valley after the 1755 Massacre. I'm trying to determine if John Bingaman had a daughter name Catherine that was Jacob Shell's wife. Lots of people have mistakenly named Catherine Clasmeier as his wife, but she was probably from a later generation and married to a nephew of Jacob's with the same name in Berks County, PA.<br />William Hinke's 'A History of the Goshenhoppen Ref. Charge', 1920 shows early church records from the New Goshenhoppen Ref. Church. A Johanes Bingeman was listed as one of the early heads of family of the church, which probably first organized as early as 1731. 'Jacob Schel and wife' baptized their daughter Gertrude there on Aug 25, 1845. The witness was an Anna Gertrant(Gertrude) Griesemer, who may have been a namesake as the child's aunt or grandmother. However, Jacob Shell, Jr., Jacob's eldest son, named one of his sons Christian Bingamin Shell. Perhaps Christian Benjamin was a close friend of Jacob Shell, Jr., or, the child was given the middle name from his mother's family. This is going way back, and I know it's very difficult to find daughter's lineage, so I'm hoping someone may know who all of John Bingaman's children were, especially before he moved to the New River.<br /><br />Roger Shell<br />Roger Shellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16419344840031001717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6654557322291409718.post-47610447875815911312020-09-29T09:08:09.669-07:002020-09-29T09:08:09.669-07:00I'm descended from Jacob Shell(1718-1802) who ...I'm descended from Jacob Shell(1718-1802) who was one of John Bingman's neighbors on the New River, and probably fled with him to the Shenandoah Valley after the 1755 Massacre. I'm trying to determine if John Bingaman had a daughter name Catherine that was Jacob Shell's wife. Lots of people have mistakenly named Catherine Clasmeier as his wife, but she was probably from a later generation and married to a nephew of Jacob's with the same name in Berks County, PA.<br />William Hinke's 'A History of the Goshenhoppen Ref. Charge', 1920 shows early church records from the New Goshenhoppen Ref. Church. A Johanes Bingeman was listed as one of the early heads of family of the church, which probably first organized as early as 1731. 'Jacob Schel and wife' baptized their daughter Gertrude there on Aug 25, 1845. The witness was an Anna Gertrant(Gertrude) Griesemer, who may have been a namesake as the child's aunt or grandmother. However, Jacob Shell, Jr., Jacob's eldest son, named one of his sons Christian Bingamin Shell. Perhaps Christian Benjamin was a close friend of Jacob Shell, Jr., or, the child was given the middle name from his mother's family. This is going way back, and I know it's very difficult to find daughter's lineage, so I'm hoping someone may know who all of John Bingaman's children were, especially before he moved to the New River.<br /><br />Roger Shell<br />Roger Shellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16419344840031001717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6654557322291409718.post-6371587937605478042020-09-29T09:06:35.475-07:002020-09-29T09:06:35.475-07:00I'm descended from Jacob Shell(1718-1802) who ...I'm descended from Jacob Shell(1718-1802) who was one of John Bingman's neighbors on the New River, and probably fled with him to the Shenandoah Valley after the 1755 Massacre. I'm trying to determine if John Bingaman had a daughter name Catherine that was Jacob Shell's wife. Lots of people have mistakenly named Catherine Clasmeier as his wife, but she was probably from a later generation and married to a nephew of Jacob's with the same name in Berks County, PA.<br />William Hinke's 'A History of the Goshenhoppen Ref. Charge', 1920 shows early church records from the New Goshenhoppen Ref. Church. A Johanes Bingeman was listed as one of the early heads of family of the church, which probably first organized as early as 1731. 'Jacob Schel and wife' baptized their daughter Gertrude there on Aug 25, 1845. The witness was an Anna Gertrant(Gertrude) Griesemer, who may have been a namesake as the child's aunt or grandmother. However, Jacob Shell, Jr., Jacob's eldest son, named one of his sons Christian Bingamin Shell. Perhaps Christian Benjamin was a close friend of Jacob Shell, Jr., or, the child was given the middle name from his mother's family. This is going way back, and I know it's very difficult to find daughter's lineage, so I'm hoping someone may know who all of John Bingaman's children were, especially before he moved to the New River.<br /><br />Roger Shell<br />Roger Shellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16419344840031001717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6654557322291409718.post-70807450667582622192020-05-05T12:54:32.671-07:002020-05-05T12:54:32.671-07:00There are 2 Lewis Bingaman in Ohio, one who immigr...There are 2 Lewis Bingaman in Ohio, one who immigrated North (yours) and one who's father immigrated from Pennsylvania (mine). I found your line first. I have tried to find the connection between the 2 lines. David Westhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09826092261958587068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6654557322291409718.post-61128811149133611302016-12-22T02:51:14.861-08:002016-12-22T02:51:14.861-08:00At this time, I am away from my "books" ...At this time, I am away from my "books" which has all my Bingamon details, in OH. With Ancestry DNA, shows my dad's family Lewis Bingaman (Guilford NC) was NOT German. For some time, I also was confused with the two separate lines. Thank you Heather for putting this all together. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10140833663002640338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6654557322291409718.post-78090532060731636512014-11-10T07:49:44.243-08:002014-11-10T07:49:44.243-08:00Thank you for all this wonderful information. Our...Thank you for all this wonderful information. Our immigrant Bingeman was Peter 1700-1757. He died in Berks Co., PA leaving a detailed will. These were German speaking people with German naming traditions. It is good to keep this in mind when sorting sons named 'John.' Peter, who signed his will as Peter Bingeman, was probably John Peter when he arrived in America. He had a son John Peter, another called John Henry, and one that was baptized Johan Dietrich. Any of his three sons could have signed documents as "John Bingeman." This is very common and often confusing for Americans where people most often use their first name. aquilagoldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14889564635066610965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6654557322291409718.post-36022701953830772252012-03-26T17:40:31.745-07:002012-03-26T17:40:31.745-07:00Coincidentally, I began researching deeper into my...Coincidentally, I began researching deeper into my Bingaman family line just this past weekend and came across your post! Thanks for sharing!<br /><br />I was surprised to find that my Bingaman line from West Feliciana, Louisiana and Natchez, Mississippi probably originated from this John Bingaman through his son, Christian Bingaman.<br /><br />I'd be interested in more info on the "old dutch woman" from Mary Ingles Draper's journey. Does anyone actually know the name of the woman? If as Duane Bingaman reported above that: "... a direct descendant of Mary Draper Ingles met and talked with a direct descendant of the "old Dutch woman" in recent years establishing the fact that she was from Pennsylvania, and not from Virginia," someone must have an name.<br /> <br /><br />I'm wondering if the story that she was a Bingaman came from a record published in the book Kegley's Virginia Frontiers:<br />page 256 "Journals, 239. Kathryn Bingaman was taken by the Shawnee Indians in 1755 and afterward redeemed by Col. Byrd She lost all she had and asked for relief – Col. Byrd allowed for this expense." <br /><br />There was a dutch woman who was captured at New River. On the list of those killed/captured at New River July 3, 1755, is:<br />"Dutch Jacob, New River, wounded.<br />His wife, New River, prisoner, escaped."<br />This list was published in:<br />History of Southwest Virginia 1746-1786, Washington County 1777-1870<br />By Lewis Preston Summer.<br /><br />This could have been Mary Draper Ingles' "old Dutch Woman" and since her last name wasn't recorded, it's possible it was the Kathryn Bingaman who later received a payment from Col Byrd.Margarethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17961058368919156142noreply@blogger.com